Re: Ultimate Drop Table Rebalance
Borgar
Borgar
It's not a bad idea: I actually somewhat dislike events, but do you think that I should make the official event items obtainable all year round from the drop chart? They wouldn't drop as premade mags unless there is reason to do so however.
Thinking about it, I can also put the offline Challenge Mode items on the drop table too with fixed 0% (as GOD intended), so that might be a nice touch.
To follow up on the above, for example I would make Mark III drop with some stats and PBs, but the rest of the line must be obtained yourself by finding the other Kits. Kit of MARK3 would still have value if you wanted to make a 5/0/0/195 mag without PBs for example, but the drop would be for a PB'd mag.
Hamburger I believe can be used on any 50+ mag, so I would just make the Kit drop, rather than the mag itself, but it's easy enough to use the kit, unlike a mag such as Chao or RoboChao.
I've made some progress on this, focusing on Episode 1 for now. Unless specified otherwise, none of these changes are live.
First, the changelog:
Keep in mind that these changes are designed not to make things easier, but increase variety of IDs and areas played, as the original drop tables are pretty bad about this, with many worthless area and ID combos.
Second, the actual drop table for Episode 1 with rates:
Forest
Cave
Mine
Ruins
And third, a quick overview image of all the "good" items in each area so you can compare quickly the balance of IDs at the moment.
With these small changes, I would say that the balance of areas/IDs is looking a lot better without significantly changing where you find things.
I will look at Episode 2 soon and rebalance with similar changes, and then it's time to look at adding items in. Right now, the following items to be added to the drop tables are:
If you can think of any other cool items to add to the Ultimate drop tables (meta items "stuck" in N-VH, cool unobtainables, this sort of thing), please let me know. I did consider AddSlots to be box drops but I am not so sure if this is a great idea, although it's not like they're hard to hunt from VH on the right ID.
I have the first "final draft" of the drop tables done. Please see below for the full drop table. These are not live yet - when they are made live, an announcement will be made in the news section.
General overview of valuable items (note: Some items may be missing off here)
Episode 1
Episode 2
First, to preface, the goal of these drop chart changes is not to make things easier to hunt, but to add variety in IDs and locations that people can choose to hunt items, and also bring into Ultimate items that people want from lower difficulties. On top of this, items which are obtainable from seasonal events or offline multiplayer have also been added to the drop tables to be available all year round. Furthermore, pre-made mags have been added to the table which will come with Photon Blasts and certain stat make ups to allow for more aesthetic creativity.
The 4 mags (ELENOR, Mark 3, Chao, and RoboChao) will drop with one of 3 pre-made configurations:
These configurations are to satisfy the mags having legitimate stats, rather than creating a situation where a certain stat build with PBs on a mag is only possible through these drops. They are purely for aesthetic purposes.
Lastly, the items which come from Easter Eggs or offline Challenge Mode will also drop with no attributes, as you would receive them legitimately. While other servers have made these items have the ability to have the hit attribute, at Ragol we don't agree with adding hit attribute to items which could never obtain them legitimately in the first place.
Please note that all changes on these drop charts are subject to change at any time. We are aiming for vanilla+ with these charts, not a completely remixed experience.
With that, here is the full changelog:
Think that should be everything... there are most likely some items I have yeeted off the tables entirely, I will add these back as we come across them.
If you have any concerns, suggestions, or queries, please be sure to ask!
The above drop table is now live, apart from the Monest, Death Gunner, Bulk, and Recobox changes (it's late and I'm lazy).
I figured with the bulk of it done, I'd just put it up for anyone who is cool and reads this. I still need to do the above changes and then update the website, then I will announce it properly.
Now it's actually live and public - I will probably do some further rebalances as I think of things and will let you know if I ever form a thought.
I've done some further revisions to this, which can be found here: viewtopic.php?t=180
There are further planned revisions, for example I plan to add another source for each of the 4 mags (gonna put one in Pinkal Tower for sure), and also possibly look at adding some interesting VH items such as D-Parts and S-Parts.